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. >> i think that tradeoff and the whole nsa arena has been playing out over the last month. so, yes, i think we're prepared. are there other steps that we can take? certainly. are we willing to take them in terms of what it might mean to the invasion of our privacy? that's a very tough question. >> right. >> which we're debating right now in congress. but yes, i think we're prepared. >> debating across the country as well. thank you very much, congressman schiff. it's always a pleasure to have him with us. >>> still to come, the world's most dangerous man, al qaeda's bomb maker. there is one man credited with not just the technical ability to build a bomb but with the innovative creativeness to create a bomb that can't be detected. we'll tell you about him. >>> plus a-rod's suspension. does the punishment fit the crime? >>> and then returning to cleveland's house of horrors. what made ariel castro's family go back and what they did there today. >>> and a driver plows into a crowd on venice beach. what we have just learned about the motorist. [ female announcer ] research sug
. >> i think that tradeoff and the whole nsa arena has been playing out over the last month. so, yes, i think we're prepared. are there other steps that we can take? certainly. are we willing to take them in terms of what it might mean to the invasion of our privacy? that's a very tough question. >> right. >> which we're debating right now in congress. but yes, i think we're prepared. >> debating across the country as well. thank you very much, congressman schiff. it's...
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. >> reporter: as for those nsa surveillance efforts that have been leaked out in the next several weeks, lawmakers basically pointed to this terror threat in calling those programs a success, saying that they've proven their worth. when asked about whether or not the administration agrees with that assessment, he said he did not want to blend these issues. >> all right, jim, thank you. two guests join us now with different takes on the al qaeda threat to the united states right now. cliff may is the president for the foundation of the defense and democracies, and our national security analyst peter bergen. you wrote a piece saying -- and the headline was time to declare a victory, al qaeda is defeated. are you ready to revise or amend? do you want the change that? what's your assessment right now based on this current threat? >> al qaeda the organization that attacked us on 9/11 is still defeated by any kind of objective. it hasn't done an attack at all in the west since july 7th, 2005, the london attacks. most of its leadership is dead. now, al qaeda in particular places in syria is ba
. >> reporter: as for those nsa surveillance efforts that have been leaked out in the next several weeks, lawmakers basically pointed to this terror threat in calling those programs a success, saying that they've proven their worth. when asked about whether or not the administration agrees with that assessment, he said he did not want to blend these issues. >> all right, jim, thank you. two guests join us now with different takes on the al qaeda threat to the united states right...
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but the top republican on the senate intelligence committee confirms it's the controversial nsa electronic surveillance program that picked up the alarming terrorist chatter. >> what we have heard is some specifics on what's intended to be done and some individuals who are making plans such as we saw before 9/11. >> in the latest we've learned that defense secretary chuck hagel called secretary of state john kerry late last night to discuss the latest information about the threat. chris. >> all right, barbara. we have some new information we want to pack here. we want to get past the headlines. joining us now is fran townsend, cnn's national analyst and a member of the advisory board. morning, fran. let's talk about the news. just came across the wires. an attack on a passenger train, the economy, going from lahor to the industrial capitalist. >> for sure, we know al qaeda has traditionally targeted transportation. it's sort of -- it feels like it may be related, but we're going to have to wait to get more out of the officials in pakistan. >> we understand you want to be careful about what
but the top republican on the senate intelligence committee confirms it's the controversial nsa electronic surveillance program that picked up the alarming terrorist chatter. >> what we have heard is some specifics on what's intended to be done and some individuals who are making plans such as we saw before 9/11. >> in the latest we've learned that defense secretary chuck hagel called secretary of state john kerry late last night to discuss the latest information about the threat....
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we heard all the public outcry when he learned how the nsa keeps tabs on us, but there's anger behind the escapes that we're not using this spy tools widely enough. the time quotes intelligence experts who say other government agencies want access to all the secret information the nsa selected. let's take you to the judge. senior judicial analyst, judge andrew napolitano. >> at first the government toldes when snowden made his initial revelations the only thing they captured was basic information, billing information,. who you called, when you called, how long you spoke. >> shepard: they lied to us. >> snowden and other nsa whistle-blowers, including one named thomas drake who has been on shows in this building, was prosecuted by the government, and the prosecution was thrown out. reveals the government does have the context of phone calls and e-mails and can read them. this morning we learn that other entities in the federal government are jealous that the nsa has this and they want it. but the dea revealed, the drug enforcement administration, it has received it. so, they have actua
we heard all the public outcry when he learned how the nsa keeps tabs on us, but there's anger behind the escapes that we're not using this spy tools widely enough. the time quotes intelligence experts who say other government agencies want access to all the secret information the nsa selected. let's take you to the judge. senior judicial analyst, judge andrew napolitano. >> at first the government toldes when snowden made his initial revelations the only thing they captured was basic...
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>> well the nsa has a lost intelligence gathering programs. that's its business. it spies on foreigners. despite the hoopla we heard, it focuses own americans only if there is a connection with foreign enemies, foreign terrorist or foreign espionage activity. so i would be surprised if one of the nsa's electronic service programs wasn't involved. whether it was prism or x key stroke or the telephone logs that have been the subject of controversy. we don't know. but i tell you, going forward, it seems to me that those programs are ideally designed to try and help nsa and the government as a whole, put together these bits and pieces of information to tell us more of what the actual target of this might be. >> if the nsa program was indeed responsible for uncovering a terrorist plot, do you think, in the mind of many americans, their opinions about the surveillance by nsa will change? they may say, wait a minute. this does justify and vindicate the program in uncovering terrorist plots? >> i certainly hope so as more information comes out, whether we want it to or no
>> well the nsa has a lost intelligence gathering programs. that's its business. it spies on foreigners. despite the hoopla we heard, it focuses own americans only if there is a connection with foreign enemies, foreign terrorist or foreign espionage activity. so i would be surprised if one of the nsa's electronic service programs wasn't involved. whether it was prism or x key stroke or the telephone logs that have been the subject of controversy. we don't know. but i tell you, going...
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bit of unfortunate timing for the administration, just as it has been taking heat over whether the nsa surveillance programs go too far, although the new information showing such close coordination between al qaeda's core leadership in pakistan and top affiliate in the arabian peninsula raises new questions about whether the terror group is really on the run. >> we have brought continually pressure to bear on both al qaeda core and al qaeda's affiliates, and we have for a number of years made clear our intention in terms of the threat presented by al qaeda has shifted in focus to some of these affiliates, in particular, aqap. >> reporter: on the campaign trail, the president not quite as nuanced. >> i say we refocus on the people that attacked us on 9/11, today al qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is dead. >> reporter: the white house aide said the cia director and other officials noted al qaeda affiliates were gaining steam. >> did he give the full picture to the people in the campaign about the threat of al qaeda, when that was his talking about again and again? >> it is indisp
bit of unfortunate timing for the administration, just as it has been taking heat over whether the nsa surveillance programs go too far, although the new information showing such close coordination between al qaeda's core leadership in pakistan and top affiliate in the arabian peninsula raises new questions about whether the terror group is really on the run. >> we have brought continually pressure to bear on both al qaeda core and al qaeda's affiliates, and we have for a number of years...
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. >> it is scary. al-qaeda's on the rise, and the nsa program is proving its worth yet again. but we need to reevaluate where we're at in light of these threats. sequestration has to be fixed. if this happens a year from now, our intelligence community and the military will be less capable. i appreciate what the administration's doing. they're taking the right approach to this. benghazi was a complete failure, the threats were real there, the reporting was real, and we basically dropped the ball. we've learned from benghazi, thank god, and the administration's doing this right. bill: all right. later on our program here general jack keane on the spread of al-qaeda and what may be in store next. the general's on deck coming up in 20 minutes. patti ann: in other news, it's high noon for a-rod. 12:00 eastern is when major league baseball is expected to announce that it is suspending yankees' third baseman alex rodriguez for his ties to a florida anti-aging clinic. adam houseley is live in san francisco. adam, hi. we've been waiting for this for a while. what can we expect today?
. >> it is scary. al-qaeda's on the rise, and the nsa program is proving its worth yet again. but we need to reevaluate where we're at in light of these threats. sequestration has to be fixed. if this happens a year from now, our intelligence community and the military will be less capable. i appreciate what the administration's doing. they're taking the right approach to this. benghazi was a complete failure, the threats were real there, the reporting was real, and we basically dropped...